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32710 bobocel
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Please help me if you have some knowledge about this. (as part of such a team for example)

I’m part of a team that’s working on a large project (my start-up) and I won’t tell the name just yet. The website is meant to have hundred of thousands of users – and most likely will have them in 6 months, as the idea behind it is great.

My question is what platform would you recommend for building the website. PHP , Ruby or rails, js frameworks? I’m unsure because of scalability issues and I have never worked on such a large project before. We’ve done planning it, but now we need to start developing, and I just want to make sure I’m familiar with my choices before I make one.

Much appreciated any answer!

Posted 2 months ago
49687 dSKY
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Projects using Ruby on rails can be developed very fast. BaseCamp runs on Ruby, however Tweeter runs on ROR too but they have performace issues , when they have a lot of active users. Yahoo runs on php , and they are serving a lot of pages. And I don’t think they ever had any performance issues .

Posted 2 months ago
32710 bobocel
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So you are saying if time is an issue, than we should use ROR (which the developer that’s part of the team doesn’t know) – or PHP . If that is your answer, than I would incline to use PHP .

But what’s up with all the noise about js frameworks?

Posted 2 months ago
32710 bobocel
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Like this one: http://www.sproutcore.com/

Any ideas if http://www.vimeo.com/ was built with PHP ? :)

Posted 2 months ago
16749 seifip
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JS framework doesn’t have anything to do with the back end… JS is front end and you can use any framework with any backend like Ruby on Rails, PHP etc.

Posted 2 months ago
32710 bobocel
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JS framework doesn’t have anything to do with the back end… JS is front end and you can use any framework with any backend like Ruby on Rails, PHP etc.

Yes, but one can use PHP as the front end too, right? I doubt this is what they used for Vimeo for example, on the front-end.

Posted 2 months ago
49687 dSKY
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php is backend language (i.e. handles data)
JavaScript is front end language ( i.e. handles user interface)
Flash is also front end. :)

Posted 2 months ago
32710 bobocel
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So php cannot do any front-end than. Ok. I should ask my php developer first before researching more, I have the feeling I look plain stupid. :D

Posted 2 months ago
37489 kamy
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http://script.aculo.us/
http://moofx.mad4milk.net/
http://framework.zend.com/

Posted 2 months ago
18193 ourben
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bobocel: you should let your developer choose a backend if you have no preference already. If you’re not running a dedicated, then he/she might want to play with the host environment first.

Speaking as myself;
RoR is the most fun
PHP has the most online resources
ColdFusion is fun, but not as much as Rails
Anything .NET is my favourite, because I speak it fluently
Python is fun, see Django

Django and RoR are higher lever frameworks of course, so if you want a solid framework – go with either of those.

About six months ago, Django scaled better – but I think Rails was better on lesser traffic.

Posted 2 months ago